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alakso

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Windproof Mid layers
« on: Dec 15 2005, 22:02 »

I've been considering getting the MH Windstopper tech jacket and vest to use as a mid layer. But a Mountaineering friend of mine has mentioned that these pieces of gear are a tad heavy.

Any recommendations on windproof mid layers for Mountaineering?

One of the things I like about the above mentioned MH mid layers is the pit zips for regulating temps. during strenuous activities.

I also love wool and have used wool as a mid layer (sweater) and shell (jacket and pants) when I used to hunt. I've been looking at wool as a base and mid layer for Mountaineering use. Would a windproof wool mid layer breath enough for strenuous activities like Mountaineering?

Everyones thoughts are greatly appreciated! alakso
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Re: Windproof Mid layers
« Reply #1 on: Dec 28 2005, 01:12 »

After reading up on soft shells at Andy Kirkpatrick's psychovertical.com website I've learned quite a lot about mid layers and soft shells. As an Indian Guide here in Maine, USA I've used wool as a soft shell system because it's quiet in the woods, insulates when wet, and breathes really well. So the Paradime shift from "layering" and "Hard Shells" to "soft shell" wasn't that big. I've also learned that the Marmot DriClime windshirt is perfect as a soft shell. The only problem I've encountered is that Marmot doesn't offer the DriClime windshirt with a hood anymore, BUMMER! And IMHO for a soft shell to replace layering and hard shells 90% of the time it must have a hood. So I'm searching for a soft shell with a hood and have been considering garments with Schoeller WB-400 or DrySkin as a fabric.

Beyond Fleece makes some nice garments with these fabrics that can be custom made with a hood.
http://www.beyondfleece.com/customize/cold_fusion_mens_soft_shell_jacket/
http://www.beyondfleece.com/customize/cold_play_mens_soft_shell_jacket/

I've also been checking out the Paramo Fuera Smock:
http://www.paramo.co.uk/UK/acatalog/FueraSmock-15-163.html

I'm also checking out the Rab trail smock, the Montane Duality Smock, and some Montbell and Arcteryx soft shell stuff.

For base laers I have a Patagonia Capilene Union suit which I love! But Patagonia isn't making this anymore and mine is 15 years old and showing it's age.

I'm going to try a Merino wool base layer from Ice Breaker.
http://www.icebreakernz.com/our-clothing/DisplayProduct.aspx?p=157&c=125

I'm also considering some Ibex or Smartwool base layer garments.

For Insulation I really like Nunatak's stuff:
These Jackets/Parkas and Pants/Bibs are available with the following fabrics:
http://www.nunatakusa.com/Down_Jackets_Sleeping_Bags_Bibs_Fabrics.htm

Nunatak Skaha Plus Hoodie sweater:
http://www.nunatakusa.com/down_sweater_skaha_hoodie.html
Nunatak Mountain Jacket:
http://www.nunatakusa.com/Down_Jacket_Kobuk.htm
Nunatak Mountain Pants:
http://www.nunatakusa.com/Down_Pants_Kobuk.htm
Nunatak Expedition Torre Parka:
http://www.nunatakusa.com/Down_Torre_Parka.htm
Nunatak Expedition Torre Bibs:
http://www.nunatakusa.com/Down_Bibs_Mountain_Bibs.htm

For a waterproof shell for really nasty wet weather use like in Alaska I'm leaning hard towards an eVent Parka like the Rab eVent Latok Guide Jacket.
http://www.rab.uk.com/products_extreme_latokgu.html

I received a MH Exposure II parka for Christmas but it's a tad heavy and doesn't fit into my clothing Paradime. I'll use it for static conditions in wet weather when weight isn't a concern, i.e. truck camping, fishing, etc..
 
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